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duchU
Riddles - something like "tree password" from Castle Alamos (MM6). Orginal/distinctive dungeons - like The Barrows (navigation system) from MM7 or Tomb of the Varn (MM6), maybe even something like Castle Darkmoor. Middle and final stage of the game as good as beginning (getting bored during gameplay can be pain in the ass). And if we are speaking of the fun - of course Arcomage card game :D
ericcarver
This may be stating the obvious but – in order for a game to be enjoyable (for me anyway) it must be win-able. That doesn’t mean that it has to be EASY. There does need to be a challenge to it, but games that have a place where the average player just can’t get past are no fun. That’s one of the great things about the M&M games. If there is a battle that you can’t win, you can go back to somewhere that has re-spawned and work your character up to a level where you can. (Personally, I HATE the level limits that the Heroes campaigns have.) Difficult puzzles are fine. If I can’t figure them out, I can always find them on-line somewhere. But difficult areas where one has to dash around and get some things done in a flash – are not! (Eight has the time limit with the puzzle room in the Snake Temple, but that is do-able even for slow old guys like me.)
narupley
Hahaha, I want to know how you guys picked znork to be a VIP and not me!
ICF-Zombra
Fun for me is all about my characters. Feeling like they matter; feeling like the build I chose makes a difference. Making meaningful decisions in their development. Being able to dress them up with cool armor on their paper doll. Seeing their faces and watching their expressions. Guiding them through a bunch of weird and challenging situations, and remembering how they chose to react.
rostsit
The main part for me is a great story that makes you feel being a part of it. But speaking about RPG character development is another main thing. Creation and customization (face customization is the top of it!), further development, dressing different armour on him/her. Also, everything ICF-Zombra said.
MrGimli32
For me when story is interesting and hero is someone who I want to identify with him, hero must have explicit charakter, some jokes,not too much (only for breaks). But when I find hidden overpowered two-hand sword of immortal fire :D I also be very happy.
znork
well the choose my bcuse of my perfect spelling
Twilite_Sleep
The dungeon crawling was always a highlight. Since the game is utilizing modern technology coming up with original and clever dungeons would be easier than the late 80's, early 90's.
coltrek
I liked the funny remarks in "The Bard's Tale" for the PS2, Xbox and PC.
Dadamgf
definitly the riddle are a good way to make the gaming experience more varied. I'm thinking about something like the riddle chest in the game '' betreyal of krondor''. Or maybe anagram. I know that not everybody love to solve puzzle like I do so the merchant could sell some books who contain'' popular riddle'' so the player who do not want to bother trying to solve them would just have to buy the book.
A lot of char stats is always good and particulary when you can see the difference when you ass point in these. You always did that right with all the might and magic because we could see that 2 dex added a +1 attack value etc... ( im not sure about that one, been a long time i did not play)
Personnaly, i prefer a game story were you are not the ''chosen one'' but rather an adventurer looting dungeon for his own sake but get engulfed into events that lead you to ''take side''.
What make a game great is when you cant rely on a single ability, you must always plan carefully your next move. This is done when enemys have imunity to certain type of attacks and weakeness to others. You always did great with the M&M but I would like to see some abilities for the archer and the swordman like '' an arrow to the knees'' that could slow movement of the enemies ( just an idea like that )
And for the quest ... well just made a lot of them ! side quest, main quest and guild quest!
That my vision of a Great game !
A lot of char stats is always good and particulary when you can see the difference when you ass point in these. You always did that right with all the might and magic because we could see that 2 dex added a +1 attack value etc... ( im not sure about that one, been a long time i did not play)
Personnaly, i prefer a game story were you are not the ''chosen one'' but rather an adventurer looting dungeon for his own sake but get engulfed into events that lead you to ''take side''.
What make a game great is when you cant rely on a single ability, you must always plan carefully your next move. This is done when enemys have imunity to certain type of attacks and weakeness to others. You always did great with the M&M but I would like to see some abilities for the archer and the swordman like '' an arrow to the knees'' that could slow movement of the enemies ( just an idea like that )
And for the quest ... well just made a lot of them ! side quest, main quest and guild quest!
That my vision of a Great game !
Sultankrisalis
Very long game please, like M&M 3. Lots of surprise, lots of improvements stats, levels. Hard game please. Eastern eggs, many class, many option.
VERY HARD GAME AND LONG GAME SURE OLD SCHOOL.
VERY HARD GAME AND LONG GAME SURE OLD SCHOOL.
The fun for me in a Might and Magic game was exploration. I loved uncovering every piece of the map and finding everything that was hidden. Trying to max my characters at level 255. Seeing pop culture references was always fun as well such as the Picard reference in Isles of Terra. If there is one hope that I have for MMXL it's that it has a large amount of non story related content to explore.
Mirae11
From the things above I would highlight
Secrets -what a pleasure to find something for the first time
Char development -MM system with E/M/GM is a must
Good story -of course -this one is truly not about an action!
I cannot really see much ways how to make turn-based system more developed than it is, so even standard features will be fine.
I would add Minigames!
Arcomage was something that made late MMs something different and even in a bad games (such as Two Worlds 2) minigames (dice in this case) can improve an overall impression. Card games like Arcomage are much more addictive than simple dice, so I will recommend usage if Arcomage or something pretty similar (people know it from the series already and it will remind them of it).
Secrets -what a pleasure to find something for the first time
Char development -MM system with E/M/GM is a must
Good story -of course -this one is truly not about an action!
I cannot really see much ways how to make turn-based system more developed than it is, so even standard features will be fine.
I would add Minigames!
Arcomage was something that made late MMs something different and even in a bad games (such as Two Worlds 2) minigames (dice in this case) can improve an overall impression. Card games like Arcomage are much more addictive than simple dice, so I will recommend usage if Arcomage or something pretty similar (people know it from the series already and it will remind them of it).
Mirae11
From the things above I would highlight
Secrets -what a pleasure to find something for the first time
Char development -MM system with E/M/GM is a must
Good story -of course -this one is truly not about an action!
I cannot really see much ways how to make turn-based system more developed than it is, so even standard features will be fine.
I would add Minigames!
Arcomage was something that made late MMs something different and even in a bad games (such as Two Worlds 2) minigames (dice in this case) can improve an overall impression. Card games like Arcomage are much more addictive than simple dice, so I will recommend usage if Arcomage or something pretty similar (people know it from the series already and it will remind them of it).
Secrets -what a pleasure to find something for the first time
Char development -MM system with E/M/GM is a must
Good story -of course -this one is truly not about an action!
I cannot really see much ways how to make turn-based system more developed than it is, so even standard features will be fine.
I would add Minigames!
Arcomage was something that made late MMs something different and even in a bad games (such as Two Worlds 2) minigames (dice in this case) can improve an overall impression. Card games like Arcomage are much more addictive than simple dice, so I will recommend usage if Arcomage or something pretty similar (people know it from the series already and it will remind them of it).
Mirae11
From the things above I would highlight
Secrets -what a pleasure to find something for the first time
Char development -MM system with E/M/GM is a must
Good story -of course -this one is truly not about an action!
I cannot really see much ways how to make turn-based system more developed than it is, so even standard features will be fine.
I would add Minigames!
Arcomage was something that made late MMs something different and even in a bad games (such as Two Worlds 2) minigames (dice in this case) can improve an overall impression. Card games like Arcomage are much more addictive than simple dice, so I will recommend usage if Arcomage or something pretty similar (people know it from the series already and it will remind them of it).
Secrets -what a pleasure to find something for the first time
Char development -MM system with E/M/GM is a must
Good story -of course -this one is truly not about an action!
I cannot really see much ways how to make turn-based system more developed than it is, so even standard features will be fine.
I would add Minigames!
Arcomage was something that made late MMs something different and even in a bad games (such as Two Worlds 2) minigames (dice in this case) can improve an overall impression. Card games like Arcomage are much more addictive than simple dice, so I will recommend usage if Arcomage or something pretty similar (people know it from the series already and it will remind them of it).
LegoIlly
Fun is most of the time imo from rewarding, challenging experience. You're not gonna have fun from too easy combat because strategy would be pointless. You're not gonna have fun either from having monotonous upgrade that are very easy to obtain.
The best thing I liked about old MM's was how challenging the combat was and how you needed to use you strategy but as well how rewarding it was - I remember the moment I could finally learn the powerful "Earth Fist" spell when I had enough money for the spell book and I was a Grandmaster so I could learn it :-) That's how you make a game fun
Having good exploration aspects and riddles makes the game "just" more awesome
The best thing I liked about old MM's was how challenging the combat was and how you needed to use you strategy but as well how rewarding it was - I remember the moment I could finally learn the powerful "Earth Fist" spell when I had enough money for the spell book and I was a Grandmaster so I could learn it :-) That's how you make a game fun
Having good exploration aspects and riddles makes the game "just" more awesome
Nelsonammo
Two things I loved about old school games like Might and Magic and Ultima: DISCOVERY and EXPLORATION. You don't really have much of those in games today. In many old school games you get a real sense of accomplishment from exploring a whole world and discovering cool things about it.
This is my first post but I love what you guys are attempting. Can't wait to play it!
This is my first post but I love what you guys are attempting. Can't wait to play it!
Ostap5Ostap
Fun:
-Fun cutscenes
-More Bosses
-Many skills
-hidden location (you must find them)
-And Colourfull game )))
-Fun cutscenes
-More Bosses
-Many skills
-hidden location (you must find them)
-And Colourfull game )))
LE-Marcus
Hello guys! It's good to see that we are on the same page concerning the big picture. There will be something of everything you mentioned - some aspects on a lesser extent, some on a bigger extent. However, we won't have "Paperdolls" or "Arcomage":
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There will be no "real" paper dolls that display the attached equipment. We decided to focus on visualizing characteristic class posings that transport the spirit of the individual classes, instead. We believe, that you will enjoy them as much as we do!
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"Arcomage" is another frequently requested feature that we unfortunately wont implement into this game because of several reasons. But we are still planning to reintroduce Arcomage at some point in the future.
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There will be no "real" paper dolls that display the attached equipment. We decided to focus on visualizing characteristic class posings that transport the spirit of the individual classes, instead. We believe, that you will enjoy them as much as we do!
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"Arcomage" is another frequently requested feature that we unfortunately wont implement into this game because of several reasons. But we are still planning to reintroduce Arcomage at some point in the future.
Nelsonammo
I made a post here a few days ago but it didn't show up. I made a post in the forums that sums up my feelings so I'll copy and paste it here:
Two words: DISCOVERY and EXPLORATION. Great old school games like Ultima and Might and Magic have it and virtually all new school RPGs are missing it. So satisfying to have a huge open world to explore and discovery crazy new things. The M&M plots were always pretty barebones and you had to figure out what it was about which was cool as well.
Also love the riddles and puzzles.
See my post in the forum for a longer version of this. Keep up the good work guys!
Two words: DISCOVERY and EXPLORATION. Great old school games like Ultima and Might and Magic have it and virtually all new school RPGs are missing it. So satisfying to have a huge open world to explore and discovery crazy new things. The M&M plots were always pretty barebones and you had to figure out what it was about which was cool as well.
Also love the riddles and puzzles.
See my post in the forum for a longer version of this. Keep up the good work guys!
Nelsonammo
I made a post here a few days ago but it didn't show up. I made a post in the forums that sums up my feelings so I'll copy and paste it here:
Two words: DISCOVERY and EXPLORATION. Great old school games like Ultima and Might and Magic have it and virtually all new school RPGs are missing it. So satisfying to have a huge open world to explore and discovery crazy new things. The M&M plots were always pretty barebones and you had to figure out what it was about which was cool as well.
Also love the riddles and puzzles.
See my post in the forum for a longer version of this. Keep up the good work guys!
Two words: DISCOVERY and EXPLORATION. Great old school games like Ultima and Might and Magic have it and virtually all new school RPGs are missing it. So satisfying to have a huge open world to explore and discovery crazy new things. The M&M plots were always pretty barebones and you had to figure out what it was about which was cool as well.
Also love the riddles and puzzles.
See my post in the forum for a longer version of this. Keep up the good work guys!
dafunkjoker
- A huge world with interesting, unique spots like in MM 6/7
- Enemys and monsters which do NOT adapt to the player level (if a monster is to strong -> come back later; if i am a mighty high lvl hero -> I want to feel this when I face weaker enemies which were once horrifying)
- motivating loot
- a complex hero stats and skills system like in MM 6/7
- an EASY inventory like in Skyrim (please not the kind of menu like in MM 6/7)
- Enemys and monsters which do NOT adapt to the player level (if a monster is to strong -> come back later; if i am a mighty high lvl hero -> I want to feel this when I face weaker enemies which were once horrifying)
- motivating loot
- a complex hero stats and skills system like in MM 6/7
- an EASY inventory like in Skyrim (please not the kind of menu like in MM 6/7)
ericcarver
Exploration and discovery IS fun. I'm still not sure that I have found all the "Sword in a Stone" sites in 6.
(OH. And I don't really have a big problem with those old inventory systems. Even 9 has them. One just has to learn to be patient when looking for something and to sell off what isn't important.)
(OH. And I don't really have a big problem with those old inventory systems. Even 9 has them. One just has to learn to be patient when looking for something and to sell off what isn't important.)
alin.olaru
A good deal of fun, for me at least, would be complex structures (Tomb of Varn and Castle Darkmoor have been tossed around), decisions with various consequences and different outcomes (a la MM7, but with more complexity, somewhere along the lines of Fallout/TES), ambiguous morality of characters, quests, motives and actions (expanding beyond the classic duality of good vs. evil - maybe a karma system a la Fallout?). Also, a big part of the fun in each and every MM game to date has been the complex story with various and lasting ramifications. Last, but not least, preserving the MM spirit through and through while bringing it to the next level.
DJsavo
Might and Magic, for me the best game ever. Fun: the best is to mix features from previsious MM except IX :D It was totaly disaster. SO
1- good story line (mainly introduction)- first succes
2- keep similar gameplay system like prev. MM (of course few good new upgrades can increase fun :D
3- Of course the keep the things they made MM the real and true MM:
A- Nice levelling system
B- Ranking of specialities (expert, master, grandmaster)+ many specialities (disarming trap, learning, etc...)
C- Spells (growing up and changing with ranking)
D- Classes (barbarian, mage, druid, dwarf, elf, etc...)
E- Dungeons (Every single town should have at least one)
D- Loot from every single beast (of course bosses and rare loot from better or rare creatures)
E- Obelisks
F- Arcomage(so much fun in every single pub :D)
G- Treasure chests (single, advanced and BLACK)
H- Weapons (nice variety and classes)
I- Good old faces (like Roland, Archibald, etc...
J- Reputation of course
K- Changing the environment (map) with events, depends on playing.
L- Elements of magic divided
M- Alchemy
For sure there is a lot of other things but if you will keep those the game will be really MM and what players will like on it.
1- good story line (mainly introduction)- first succes
2- keep similar gameplay system like prev. MM (of course few good new upgrades can increase fun :D
3- Of course the keep the things they made MM the real and true MM:
A- Nice levelling system
B- Ranking of specialities (expert, master, grandmaster)+ many specialities (disarming trap, learning, etc...)
C- Spells (growing up and changing with ranking)
D- Classes (barbarian, mage, druid, dwarf, elf, etc...)
E- Dungeons (Every single town should have at least one)
D- Loot from every single beast (of course bosses and rare loot from better or rare creatures)
E- Obelisks
F- Arcomage(so much fun in every single pub :D)
G- Treasure chests (single, advanced and BLACK)
H- Weapons (nice variety and classes)
I- Good old faces (like Roland, Archibald, etc...
J- Reputation of course
K- Changing the environment (map) with events, depends on playing.
L- Elements of magic divided
M- Alchemy
For sure there is a lot of other things but if you will keep those the game will be really MM and what players will like on it.
Delrusant
Managing to complete item sets (if they do exist) before they become useless (or at least partly if you have partial set bonuses). Secret gear that can be overpowered or really targeted (+350% against spirits but -85% against everything else).
Quests that do not necessarilly needs fighting (if towns are big enough), multipath quests that cannot be redone (your choice has a consequence).
Quests that do not necessarilly needs fighting (if towns are big enough), multipath quests that cannot be redone (your choice has a consequence).
EdwardBishop
My favorites in the M&M Series were 6-8, so I'm most looking forward to the 6-8 style class and skill progression (announced as I understand it), but I can also appreciate the old school movement-style from earlier games...
Acromage would seal the deal for me as the other commenter said - that would be sheer fun! And I'm sure you guys own the rights to it with the rest of the M&M stuff, so bringing it back in Legacy would be awesome!
Acromage would seal the deal for me as the other commenter said - that would be sheer fun! And I'm sure you guys own the rights to it with the rest of the M&M stuff, so bringing it back in Legacy would be awesome!
EdwardBishop
My favorites in the M&M Series were 6-8, so I'm most looking forward to the 6-8 style class and skill progression (announced as I understand it), but I can also appreciate the old school movement-style from earlier games...
Acromage would seal the deal for me as the other commenter said - that would be sheer fun! And I'm sure you guys own the rights to it with the rest of the M&M stuff, so bringing it back in Legacy would be awesome!
Acromage would seal the deal for me as the other commenter said - that would be sheer fun! And I'm sure you guys own the rights to it with the rest of the M&M stuff, so bringing it back in Legacy would be awesome!
ericcarver
I have to say that NOT having Arcomage to play WILL be a disappointment. When it first showed up, I was doubtful and I avoided the “Tournaments.” But on my third or forth time through (I can’t remember if I first tried it in 7 or 8.) I got hooked. And besides, it is a great way to make some easy money early in the game(s). – PLEASE reconsider it.
Sh1naar
1. Great loot. When you get something really unique and rare, like a sword with name .etc.
2. Hard to kill quest monsters which has to be killed for cool quests. Like super-ancient Behemoth's liver needed to complete unique dagger which you need to open The Queen Shellfish's shell.
3. When you can lead angry wyverns to AvLi to fight guards.
4. Riidles as DUCHU said.
2. Hard to kill quest monsters which has to be killed for cool quests. Like super-ancient Behemoth's liver needed to complete unique dagger which you need to open The Queen Shellfish's shell.
3. When you can lead angry wyverns to AvLi to fight guards.
4. Riidles as DUCHU said.
Aeon1977
1. Exploration, with lots of secrets to unveil outside and inside. Lots of different environments to immerse 2. Stat boosting wells you may need to visit before a heavy fight you else would not survive. 3. Lots and lots of different enemy types - if you need to fight the same enemies over and over again it gets boring damn quickly. 4. Calendar based events - like "the circus is at C4 from day x to day y" - and quests connected to that. An immersive story with twists and turns. 5. Make riddles, not puzzles! Massive Switch-clicking and teleporter-jumping just to open some little chamber is just annoying compared to solving some good old brain-cooking riddles.
Aeon1977
Ah, I forgot to mention something I loved in the earlier M&M Games: THE ARENA. I remember spending hours there, earning lots of good XP and Gold.
ClericMat
character development diversity, similar to the wizardry series. Increase replay-ability though the ability to try out different combinations. Small game play/quest/dialog changes based on party make up would enhance this.
ClericMat
character development diversity, similar to the wizardry series. Increase replay-ability though the ability to try out different combinations. Small game play/quest/dialog changes based on party make up would enhance this.
Many different aspects of the game, not just following the storyline. Weird and interesting (optional!) side quests. Preferably side quests with have very very little or even nothing to do with the storyline. Previous mm games had these, it was fun :).
GrayFace_wog
1) Most importantly, battles shouldn't be tedious. I think high enough Damage/HP ratio and high enough variation of strength of groups of monsters within location. But you should know better as I haven't played grid-based MM's. Just don't make creatures that heal/resurrect/etc usual encounters. If they come from H6 into MMX, they should stay rear enough, because they can make battles last much longer.
2) Variety in dungeons.
3) Don't create too many houses in towns, I remember I disliked it in MM9 (in one particular town which was like a square filled with houses, unlike for example Free Haven where there's a lot of houses, but they aren't in one place and thus are distinguishable).
4) MM does a good job with alchemy - you don't lose much if you do without it, because you can buy black potions in shops later on. Just make sure you keep it that way, because alchemy gets boring on subsequent playthroughs.
5) Different difficulty levels.
2) Variety in dungeons.
3) Don't create too many houses in towns, I remember I disliked it in MM9 (in one particular town which was like a square filled with houses, unlike for example Free Haven where there's a lot of houses, but they aren't in one place and thus are distinguishable).
4) MM does a good job with alchemy - you don't lose much if you do without it, because you can buy black potions in shops later on. Just make sure you keep it that way, because alchemy gets boring on subsequent playthroughs.
5) Different difficulty levels.
Sir_Ironfist
Quests that make you despair: In MM6-8 I loved dungeons where you had to search for a little button to open a gate. In some cases it took a lot of time to find such buttons, because it was at the lower edge of a random bed. I loved it.
Atukayi
Arcomage is fun in MM.
And a very long game.
And a very long game.
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