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Ashan is piece of shit in comparison to Enroth/Erathia and that is very sad.
Kruse999
Each to their own, I prefer Ashan.
Shukfir
I also prefer Ashan. The only thing in MMX story i'm worried about is if there'll be again "everybody versus demon invasion" (like in most Ashan games). I'm little bit tired of demons.
Marzhin93
@Shukfir: so am I.
C_Rastrelly
Congrats! You guys prefer uninspired cloning over actual potential of fantasy genre. Good for you.
arain.20
I dislike and maaaany people also dislike Ashan, the "god dragons", story of invasion of demons (again, again, again...), lore, etc. And we say you since MMH6, for this you force on shades of darkness the back of the dragons, remove fate spinner on vein campaing, and many etc. Return to simplicity of the saga, like Heroes 2, 3 even 4.... Is so easy, but you always destroy all.
Shukfir
Yeah. I saw references to Myranda and Nergal - one of the main Duel of Champions' heroes. Even a whole class - Windsword - is a reference to DoC Campaign.
hpilleau
For a game that is meant to be following on from M&M1 - M&M9 you would think there would be more references to these games rather then the Heroes and raiders game.
SandroTheMaster
There are some more. There's a poem in the Alpha that is a direct reference to Might and Magic I-III. Also, there are a few cheekier references hidden that you need to go out of your way to notice.
C_Rastrelly
You know what makes me mad? Appearances of old characters. I understand Hack - he's a running gag. But if Ashan lies not within original M&M setting, there should be no old characters. If there is any way to break suspension of disbelief - there you go, you did it. This mediocre useless petty piece of "fantasy" - Ashan - is the greatest offence to original series. Thank you for reminding how bad this setting is! You guys know how to spoil my day!
SandroTheMaster
That's being needlessly aggressive. I also love Colony and the Spinward Rim, but the devs that took on the mantle of the series wanted to give their own shot and their own spin on the game, knowing (entirely correctly) that anything they did with the original setting would still be considered unworthy.
SandroTheMaster
And to be fair, the Campaigns of Heroes VI were actually quite novel in some aspects. Ashan does have some interesting ideas for a fantasy setting. I like how there's an Angel vs Faceless conflict going on where the Angels aren't good, just a side. Let's see where this goes.
SandroTheMaster
Ugh... this posting order. Read the last first.
Marzhin93
@C_Rastrelly: It's of course your right to feel that way about Ashan, but out of curiosity: you said several times in comments that you hate Ashan, and also that you won't play MMX anyway. So why are you still here?
@Sandrothemaster: don't worry, as soon as you refresh the page the comments put themselves in the right order.
@Sandrothemaster: don't worry, as soon as you refresh the page the comments put themselves in the right order.
C_Rastrelly
Marzhin93, I didn't say I won't play MMX. I meant I won't play early access version. And I am not playing it. I am complaining because I like series and hate the direction it was taken. Basically, it has nothing to do with old M&M but the title. So why not to call the franchise "Tears of Asha" or "Angels & Dragons"? I wouldn't complain at all if it would be that way )
Marzhin93
Then I can only hope that once you play the final game you'll see there is more of the classic Might & Magic in Legacy than you think, even if the game is set on Ashan ;)
Gattz13
Wasn't I reading from C_RASTRELLY that he won't be posting on MMX threads anymore?
BTW, are you mad by default or you just get mad very easy and often by random?
BTW, are you mad by default or you just get mad very easy and often by random?
C_Rastrelly
Part 1
I changed my mind. Didn't Ubisoft change its mind on DRM policy? Also, I'm getting mad when someone makes obviously illogical decisions. And I'm talking about Ubisoft again. You enjoy Ashan? Lucky you. I think it's a compiled continuity, inferior both to objects of compilation and to original setting, and I think adding old characters looks simply unreasonable if we are talking of entirely new setting that has nothing in common with the old one.
I changed my mind. Didn't Ubisoft change its mind on DRM policy? Also, I'm getting mad when someone makes obviously illogical decisions. And I'm talking about Ubisoft again. You enjoy Ashan? Lucky you. I think it's a compiled continuity, inferior both to objects of compilation and to original setting, and I think adding old characters looks simply unreasonable if we are talking of entirely new setting that has nothing in common with the old one.
C_Rastrelly
Part 2
If someone from Ubi will tell me what's the distance from, say, Ashan to Xeen in light years, I'll get much less mad.
If someone from Ubi will tell me what's the distance from, say, Ashan to Xeen in light years, I'll get much less mad.
Gattz13
I see, but hay man, I think you are digging too much into rat holes. You are leaving too little space for pure happiness. Wake up the child inside you and give it at least 20% of your soul space. Make some time for "wooo" or "woohooo" instead of nearly bureaucratic insights.
You have the right to bring any comment and ask for any change (from the devs) you want.
But you also have a right to be happy and optimistic (not in the drug-way, just in the free-happy-soul way)
You have the right to bring any comment and ask for any change (from the devs) you want.
But you also have a right to be happy and optimistic (not in the drug-way, just in the free-happy-soul way)
C_Rastrelly
Heh, I have Doom, Duke 3D and Morrowind for that XD Let me explain my position for it to be a little more clear: I am not that bureaucratic. Say, Star Wars ep. 7. Imagine it will become medieval fantasy about war of First God Taedum and Dark Energy. It will be a story of three elven kids who meet old wise goblin shaman Yoda and nostalgic paladin Obi Wan, and together they have to stop evil, which controls lord Dementus, ruler of nearby lands! (And one of taverns will be called Vader - wink wink)
Ice-H1961
Out of interest, is Pirates of the Savage Sea included in the MM VI version we got as a gift? Damn I didn' t even know that such a pack exists :-(
Marzhin93
Pirates of the Savage Sea is an adventure pack for HEROES VI, not for MIGHT & MAGIC VI. The game included as a bonus with MMX is the latter.
SandroTheMaster
As said, that adventure was for Heroes 6. It and Danse Macabre were two campaigns where you play on Ashan's version of classic heroes Crag Hack and Sandro. Both quite fun, in my opinion, but you need to like the gameplay from Heroes 6, as they can be quite long.
Ice-H1961
Damn this is what happens if one reads careless, sorry dudes.
Ann no I don' t like HoMM VI. It' s to much of an DotA instead of a HoMM version :-(
Ann no I don' t like HoMM VI. It' s to much of an DotA instead of a HoMM version :-(
Ice-H1961
Still no "Edit" button *weep* ;-)
DreamWarden33
I like the Ashan Universe. I never liked the Sci-Fi element in the old M&M games. It was pointless. You play 99% of the game with Medieval Weaponry and Armor and then at the end you get blasters that make all of your other skills that you have worked hard to improve, worthless. M&M VII for example. If you like Sci-Fi, go play Star Wars, Star Craft, or Star Trek. I like my RPGs in the typical Medieval setting. Final Fantasy does that blending too and I no longer can stand those games.
C_Rastrelly
You like YOURS RPGs. You have plenty of those. M&M was OUR RPG. We liked it for what it was. Can you please direct us to any modern wRPG that combines fantasy and sci-fi?
DreamWarden33
The background story, gameplay, sound and graphics are good. I will enjoy playing the final version once it is released. The game has the old M&M feel to it, which is great. Yes, I liked Acromage, Real-Time Combat, 360 degree movement, respawn, etc., but that's what makes this game different from all of the rest. Go play some other RPG if you do not like this one. I cannot stand people that complain about everything but have no solutions. Go create your own games if you can!
C_Rastrelly
I am working on one right now. It's a tile-based dungeon crawler with sci-fi elements. It will get to something like beta till the end of year. I'm working on it alone. Engine is GLScene. It has a has built-in map editor which will not require any additional payment. It looks amateur and mimics Wizardry series. I am dead serious now.
Ice-H1961
@ DreamWarden33
Good catch, thumbs up
Good catch, thumbs up
Shambell
No chance to have something (a book for example) in game telling the story of M&M Raiders ?
If a lot of work was made for it, it would be a pity to have it lost on some ubi computer
If a lot of work was made for it, it would be a pity to have it lost on some ubi computer
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