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forgottenl
Definately an excellent caster. The free mage maybe more useful but this is a great alternative. All the dwarf classes seem pretty cool.
ThiiagoGriffin
Loved this class *-*
Just did not understand the part of the Spear trained. why not mace? it was weird.
Just did not understand the part of the Spear trained. why not mace? it was weird.
Reaver298
or axe for that matter spear is something a human or orc would weild not a dwarf, axe and hammer make much more sense.
Zorko1990
the Rune Priest is overpower in a good way he will be i my party, good dmg with weapons and ekstremly good with magic, and ofc. he has alot Hp, he is the ultimate magic fighter
NoOB._sai.B0T
Cool!!
Dwarfs the best!!!
Dwarfs the best!!!
ThiiagoGriffin
the class was wonderful, but this training in Spear out instead of Mace has no sense... o.o'
Kmanfree
There is master in Mace.
Kmanfree
oh nevermind my post I see what you mean, starting out with a spear is kind of strange yes.
ThiiagoGriffin
yes yes, that's right. he need not be a GM in any guns or gun, but start with spear instead of mace, is not much sense. At least I thought... :/
ThiiagoGriffin
*any Weapons or weapons
sorry, google traductor is bad :/
sorry, google traductor is bad :/
SandroTheMaster
I think the main reason is that Spears are more useful in the early game, when it can be difficult to fully equip the party and the caster is supposed to be the easy one. So it is a gameplay decision for early game balance. It is just easier to place a spear on your Priest's hand than a mace AND a shield for the first couple of levels.
Oh, and you shouldn't blame google when it is the language itself that doesn't differentiate between firearms and melee weapons. It can't read your mind. :p
Oh, and you shouldn't blame google when it is the language itself that doesn't differentiate between firearms and melee weapons. It can't read your mind. :p
ThiiagoGriffin
yes yes, I understand it, this "strange" thing can only be done because of balancing it. But until today I did not understand why she did not have a skill of "staff" ultimately comes to be very odd for a Caster / Magic wielding a "Spear", whether human / elf / dwarf, orc to understand that until the middle is something "tribal "of gender.
ThiiagoGriffin
heheh yes but in my country firearms and melee weapons can both be called "Armas", it has the same meaning, but in translation from my language to english google understood as "Gun or Revolver in my country" hehe :P
NoOB._sai.B0T
need mace-pick mace!what problem?)
Dwarfs in 5 heroes wield spear.I like this.
Dwarfs in 5 heroes wield spear.I like this.
jsebela
I also wonder, but from different perspective. If you take the size/height of dwarfs in consideration, then spear is kind of inpractical to handle, don´t you think? If dwarf is 120cm high and has spear, which has at least 190cm (roman pilu) or greek ones (2-3m), Makedonians (5,5m) it would a little difficult to wield while axe or short sword is much more practical.
SandroTheMaster
@Jsebela:
On the contrary, actually.
Spears would act like an "equalizer" for a short race like the dwarves, in a practical sense. One of the advantages of a melee weapon is increased reach. Spears were very useful for earlier men in order to "close the gap" in reach with savage animals like bears, boars and beyond.
Axes and maces are traditional, but for me Spears make as much sense in the hand of dwarves :)
On the contrary, actually.
Spears would act like an "equalizer" for a short race like the dwarves, in a practical sense. One of the advantages of a melee weapon is increased reach. Spears were very useful for earlier men in order to "close the gap" in reach with savage animals like bears, boars and beyond.
Axes and maces are traditional, but for me Spears make as much sense in the hand of dwarves :)
ThiiagoGriffin
@ Jsebela:
yes this right! I also think this way, is let's say "visibly" disporposional. So why the image of the class, she ta holding a mace / hammer.
@ SandroTheMaster
Yes "men / human" bears no mater to dwarves. In all games to know where the weapons used by dwarves are always axes, maces or crossbows if to be ranged.
@ NoOB._sai.B0T
Not what it seems. That seems much more a "Staff" than a "Spear"
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/fortress_creatures.shtml # CREATURE_RUNE_MAGE
yes this right! I also think this way, is let's say "visibly" disporposional. So why the image of the class, she ta holding a mace / hammer.
@ SandroTheMaster
Yes "men / human" bears no mater to dwarves. In all games to know where the weapons used by dwarves are always axes, maces or crossbows if to be ranged.
@ NoOB._sai.B0T
Not what it seems. That seems much more a "Staff" than a "Spear"
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/fortress_creatures.shtml # CREATURE_RUNE_MAGE
ThiiagoGriffin
@NoOB._sai.B0T
Not what it seems. That seems much more a "Staff" than a "Spear"
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/toe_fortress_creatures.shtml#CREATURE_FLAME_KEEPER
..the other link dont works.
Not what it seems. That seems much more a "Staff" than a "Spear"
http://www.heroesofmightandmagic.com/heroes5/toe_fortress_creatures.shtml#CREATURE_FLAME_KEEPER
..the other link dont works.
jsebela
RE: Sandrothemaster 16-01-2014 3:57: I can´t agree with you on that point. Cut yourself staff about 3m long and try to fight with it. That would equal to how it would look for dward to wield 2m long spear. It may be practical for dwarf phallanx units, especially against mounted opponents, but in combat of man against man, you´d die, if you don´t have better weapon.
In such combat weapon with shorter range can be to advantage, if soldier is agile enough.
In such combat weapon with shorter range can be to advantage, if soldier is agile enough.
ThiiagoGriffin
*any Weapons or weapons
sorry, google traductor is bad :/
sorry, google traductor is bad :/
Shukfir
And I thought, that on the images of every class we see those weapon, which is one of their starting skill. Seems I was mistaken.
ThiiagoGriffin
then, when I saw a site with classes thought it to be the same type as "mercenary" on the weapon question. GM does not have it, but start with Mace and in case Fire Magic. But it starts with this spear, it can be to "balance" something in the game, but in terms of "sense" was very disappointing, especially being a dwarf... :/
Kmanfree
Spear ignoring 50% armor at master, if I remember right, sounds pretty nice though I may just go with it.
Gattz13
As the Rune Priest has Grand Master in Focus, I would prefer equipping her/him with Foci weapon. Combined with Grand Master Fire Magic, this would be OP (unless mana will be a problem)
Kmanfree
Yes GETTZ13 after looking at it more I agree with you, Focus weapon be better overall.
crow_the_pirate
Rune Priest looks good and similar to the Shaman (albeit stil better than the Shaman). So far, from the Magic classes, the Druid looks worst. Freemage has almost no weapon&utility skills, but makes up for it by being the best mage hands down. Shaman and Rune Priest are quite capable fighters who can take a hit while still being only one step behind the Freemage in magical abilities. The Druid is a weak and fragile fighter with the same magic affinity as Rune Priest&Shaman...
Shukfir
But Druid has lots of Mana. He is the only class to be GM of Mysticism.
Ice-H1961
Probably the best character that came after the Early A, ones. Will be in my party :-D
Ice-H1961
Found no adquade thread to ask this? So her' s a little OT.
If I start a new game now, will I be able to use the saves with the final version?
If I start a new game now, will I be able to use the saves with the final version?
Kordanor2
No, you won't. The Game Versions are just too different.
Gerugon, a german lets player who already had access to chapter 2 wasnt even able to import the characters from EA to this press version.
Gerugon, a german lets player who already had access to chapter 2 wasnt even able to import the characters from EA to this press version.
Ice-H1961
Tx for your answer. I feared that it' ll be like this :-( Nevermind final release isn' t that far away :-D
Aspiriins
Typo found:
Stout "..health points PET point.." needs to be "..health points PER point.."
Stout "..health points PET point.." needs to be "..health points PER point.."
jsebela
Hm, so race ability got trimmed just 1 extra point? Thats sad.
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